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: eric shawn live in boston. eric, thank you. we are still trying to get to the real story on tamerlan tsarnaev's trip to russia last year and his possible ties to terrorism and islamic extremism. chief intelligence correspondent catherine herridge is following that thread tonight. >> the fbi's handling of tamerlan tsarnaev in 2011 and six-month trip to russia the following year now face congressional scrutiny. >> was your department aware of his travels to russia and, if you weren't, the reason? >> yes. the system pinged when he was leaving the united states. by the time he returned all investigations had been -- the matter had been closed. >> napolitano said the lookout system that flags agents federal investigation no longer active when tamerlan returned from russia in july of 2012. >> the system picked up departure but did not pick him coming back, correct? >> the fbi text alert on him at that point was more than a year old and had expired. >> napolitano's pluck contradict briefing given by the fbi director. >> after talking to the fbi they told me they had no knowledge of him leav
's -- and the brother, tamerlan tsarnaev had the ploes sifs strapped to him. no indication that dzhokhar did. and he obviously tried to make an escape. so what does that tell you about his own state of mind and you know the idea some of these guys want to be a martyr to a case an if there is a cause and we don't know. some of them want to live. >> it tells me there's just what you said. there's a lot of people saying i'm willing to die but they don't necessariry want to die. this guy could have died. he could have leaned out of the boat and cranked out a couple more rounds and they would have put him down. but he chose not to. tactically they did everything they could to get him out of there alive. he could have committed that suicide. as long as we see the vid act of wanting to sur vief we have something to play with. we can dance with the devil to get information to save lives as long as we know this guy will not see the light of day outside of a prison again. >> where do you suppose they will take this line of questioning, clint? well, is that to me, chris? yeah. >> yeah. the things we're trying
whether the elder son tamerlan, actually did meet someone suspicious. we know that he was with his father. his father has spoken at length about both sons actually. he did confirm the man did come out and visit and stayed with them. both parents have actually said that they believe both sons, the 26-year-old tamerlan, now deceased, and the 19-year-old dzhokhar, the one who's in custody in the hospital, they say that they were framed. and the mother has actually accused the fbi of regularly harassing the family. she says because they are chechens, ethnic chechens. now, the parents have been living more recently in dagestan which is in the north caucuses region. now, this is a very troubled area. it's a small russian republic, but it's neighboring chechnya. both of these areas have seen a lot of conflict, particularly an active separatist group in dagestan right now, there's a mission taking place in the area to clean up what the government says is a guerrilla group. now, the mother, of course, has described her sons as good people and that they were persecuted because they were chechens an
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